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Re: War Engagement

Postby shadowhawk2008 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:46 am

Commander Shadow wrote:not entirely disagreeing with your point but what would be the tactical reason of having a fortress world off on its own somewhere? surely that would mean any potential invader would just by-pass the system?


That's a good point but you have to consider something else as well. Renbar Cross is pretty much in the same block on the street as Hesperon III. Renbar Cross is a fortress world, meaning it has thousands of guardsmen, veterans, stormtroopers, tank regiments and Emperor knows what else there. Plus AdMech Titan Legio support [on permanent duty like the Legio Tempestus I think it was on Hydra Cordatus in Storm of Iron]. Plus they have a small naval battlegroup always on station in the Renbar system. Renbar Cross is also a major military base in the sector so its going to have a lot of navy/guard/inquisition etc traffic in and out. Not to mention that as a fortress world, quite a few elite ships of the navy would be around as well. So response times overall are going to be quite good.

You can't just afford to ignore something like that. Leaving a well equipped, well-entrenched enemy at your backs is never a good idea unless you ever plan to keep it in check somehow.

Hope that justifies it :)
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Re: War Engagement

Postby Commander Shadow » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:18 pm

well played sir :D right that makes sense
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Re: War Engagement

Postby Commander Shadow » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:08 am

At any rate, here's the list i came up with for the Imperial Navy battlefleet, what do you think?

Battle Fleet Hesperon

Commanding Officer: Admiral Vitrus

Flagship

“His Faith in Heaven”- Emperor Class Battleship- Admiral Vitrus

Fighter Wings: 1272nd, 3343rd , 902nd, and 441st Intercept
Bomber Wings: 2772nd, 232nd, 1001st and 23rd Bomber

Battleships

“The Assar”- Apocalypse Class Battleship- Commodore Perchevi

“The Bastion of Fire”- Retribution Class Battleship- Commodore Thane

Cruisers

“The Tybalt”- Mars Class Battlecruiser- Captain Bichina

“The Glory”- Luna Class Cruiser- Captain Yiah

“The Honor of Duty”- Luna Class Cruiser- Commander Vaseli

“The Guns of Pethaya”- Dictator Class Cruiser- Commander Cazzi

Fighter Wings: 757th and 3341st Intercept
Bomber Wings: 664th and 2023rd Bomber

“The Throne”- Luna Class Cruiser- Captain Gayi

“The Victorious”- Gothic Class Cruiser- Commander Vachani

“The Vengeance”- Luna Class Cruiser- Captain Aear

“The Hammer of Ullor”- Dominator Class Cruiser- Commander Jeyan

“The Vanguard”- Luna Class Cruiser- Commander Plite

“His Glory”- Dictator Class Cruiser- Commander Nuan

Fighter Wings: 887th and 3002nd intercept
Bomber Wings:2119th and 6465th Bomber

“The Pride of Nebaman”- Luna Class Cruiser- Commander Huana
Escorts

“The Pride of Fire”-Dauntless Light Cruiser- Captain Guon

“The Jeremiah”-Dauntless Light Cruiser- Captain Coa

“The Wrath of Varra”- Endurance Light Cruiser- Captain Buchar

“The Long Spear”- Endeavor Light Cruiser- Commander Chayan

“The Hell Fire”- Dauntless Class Light Cruiser- Captain Kaen

“The Luthor”- Endurance Class Light Cruiser- Commander Bassing

“The Holy Sword”- Firestorm Class frigate- Commander Taysan

“The Imperator”- Sword Class Frigate- Commander Haysan

“The Julli”- Sword Class Frigate- Captain Ventrilli

232nd “Head Hunters” Cobra Squadron- Squadron Commander Captain Mara

112nd “Heavy Hands” Cobra Squadron- Squadron Commander Captain Natheniel

34th “Devils” Cobra Squadron- Squadron Commander Captain Dayid

“The Blessed Mater” Thor Class Carrier- Captain Unai

Fighters Wings: 545th, 674th, 9893rd, and 233rd Intercept
Bomber Wings: 745th, 235th, 1252nd, and 7th Bomber

“The Silent Throne” Thor Class Carrier- Commander Kellai

Figher Wings: 3443rd, 1559th, 4331st, and 1882nd Intercept
Bomber Wings: 4351st, 2212nd, 424th, and 101st Bomber
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Re: War Engagement

Postby shadowhawk2008 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:07 am

That seems to be a lot of ships. Perhaps more than necessary? I'd suggest trimming down the number of cruisers because there are a lot of top level cruisers in the fleet. Hesperon I'd say is an important sector but not that important. Lots of low level cruisers like the Dauntless and lots of escort squadrons make more sense IMO.

Fun fact: Tybalt Marr was a Captain of the Luna Wolves prior to the Heresy :) He eventually joined the legion's warrior lodge, inducted by Horus himself.

Swords and Firestorms are also generally organized into squadrons so you might want to look at it.

I would also suggest on a rank convention. Admiral Vitrus is the commander of the Hesperon Battlefleet. The next two ranking officers below him should be like Vice-Admirals or something and everyone else either a Captain or Squadron Commanders.

And I've never heard of a Thor-class carrier. Any info on that?
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Re: War Engagement

Postby Commander Shadow » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:17 am

how about i take out one of the battleships and a few of the cruisers? I can organise the firestorms and dauntless frigates into squadrons.
Oh and i do remember a Tybalt Marr! i hadn't thought of that, i was going of the one in Romeo and Julliet (he was quite the badass)

I'll organize a rank convention along with the revised fleet list.
As to Thor carriers, they are a personal invention, i heard of the escort carriers in the armageddon battlefleet and this task force seemed to have a small number of fighter and bomber wings for planetary assaults. Personally i envision them to be something akin to a cruiser but with flight decks instead of any heavy arnament, used primarily in invasions of planets.

Do you think the guard regiments would be berthed upon the cruisers or should there be separate transports?
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Re: War Engagement

Postby shadowhawk2008 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:31 am

Well we already have the fighter/bomber wings for Hesperon aboard their own ships. So unless you want to show a completely dedicated carrier with space for all sorts of fighters and gunships and personnel transportation go for it. Or we can just increase the number of fighter/bomber wings on the canon carriers and maybe increase the squadron strength as well.

I'll check out the Armageddon Battlefleet stuff though to see what is there.

And I'd say have a few dedicated transport ships going along. The Thors could function in that regard since we have so little information on this subject. The Thors could have access to the Tetrarch heavy landers and the Devourer landers too to transport regiments from the fleet to the planet surface.

Phalanx and Eru I think were going to look up the Tetrarch in Tactica Imperialis. I'm waiting for some info on that front.
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Re: War Engagement

Postby Commander Shadow » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:07 am

I'd have no problem with cutting out the thor carriers. I wasn't awe of the atmospheric wings. The only fluff transport classes that i've heard of are Galleon class troop transports (mentioned briefly in the IG codex). Either way it shouldn't be a problem.

Out of curiosity when do we get to hashing out timelines of planetary invasions and the like?
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Re: War Engagement

Postby shadowhawk2008 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:19 am

Anytime you want :)

So far these are my musings --

945823.m41 - Lord Governor Seywol Darran and Cardinal Sodain Garrysta declare their secession from the Imperium.

Sometime in the next four months or so a punitive action is initiated by the subsector command. This is a failure. Rumours abound of Tau involvement, helping the rebels.

565824.m41 - Hesperon Crusade to bring the secessionists to justice is declared.

723824.m41 - First conflict of the Crusade. Agri-world of Marn's Reach. Four regiments of the guard under Marshal Sergevi deploy to retake the planet. High casualties. Victory achieved with the intervention of Brother-Captain Gerber of the Novamarines' Third Company.

805824.m41 - Second conflict of the Crusade. Industrial world of Straffenberg.

831.m41 - Crusade ends with the capture of Trenna and Klesser Prime. Cardinaly Garrysta is burned on the stakes as a heretic. Governor Darran is publicly executed by the Ordo Hereticus.
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Re: War Engagement

Postby Commander Shadow » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:41 pm

seems good. So there should be some fillers in between those major events? I can come up with a few as soon as i finish the guard regiments by the end of today.

The imperial grand stratagey? some sort of slow push closer and closer to Klesser (due to the failure of the inital strike, i can write up some more in depth things about it), system by system, planet by planet. I would advocate going after the agri worlds first, starving the rest of the system into relative submission
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Re: War Engagement

Postby shadowhawk2008 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:09 pm

That would be more like the strategy used by the guard regiments. The marines would favour the bold approach :)
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Re: War Engagement

Postby Commander Shadow » Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:33 pm

True, but i suppose that they could be used in conjunction to each other. The guard hammering their way across planets while the Astartes make rapid strikes at key points on the battlefeild or warzone.
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Re: War Engagement

Postby shadowhawk2008 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:59 am

Let me know what you guys think of this.

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a. Hesperon III [Hesperon System] – Capital of the Hesperon subsector.
b. Buchena [Hesperon System] – Agri-world that supplies the vast population of Hesperon III.
c. Renbar Cross [Renbar System] – Fortress world. Home to the Crusade Command Staff.
d. Klesser Prime [Klesser System] – Klesser Prime is situated north of the alien Tau Empire, just southwest of Bast’s World [Map1]. It is part of the Klesser system and home to the Klesserine Hive Guard.
e. Klesser VI [Klesser System] – Penal colony, home to the Klesser Penal Legions.
f. Manisota [Klesser System] – Agri-world supplying Klesser Prime.
g. Alnedos [Alnedos System] – Hive world and shipyard, servicing the Hesperon Battlegroup. Also home to the Alnedosi Rifles regiments.
h. Zolme [Alnedos System] – asteroidal mining colony supplying the factories of Alnedos.
i. Siparias [Sipar System] – Hive world, home to the Sipari Dragoons Mechanised regiments.
j. Trenna [Trakkus System] – Primary Cardinal World of the Hesperon subsector.
k. Ioha [Trakkus System] – Agri-world supplying Trenna and other neighbouring worlds.
l. Anacites V [Anacites System] – Mining world supplying the Hesperon subsector.
m. Gojaha II [Gojaha System] – Industrial world supplying the Secessionists with weapons.
n. Straffenberg [Straffen System] – Industrial world supplying the Secessionists with tanks and other supplies.
o. Ferrum IV [Straffen System] – Mining world supplying the factories of Straffenberg.
p. Marn’s Reach [Marn System] – Agri-world. Most recently the scene of conflict between the Ordo Xenos and a Kroot Warsphere.
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Re: War Engagement

Postby Raziel4707 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:16 am

Nice, it really helps to see it all laid out like that!

No quibbles of any kind, now when planning the encounters we can just re-post the map with markers showing where we are, where they came from etc. Good job!
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Re: War Engagement

Postby shadowhawk2008 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:24 am

Raziel4707 wrote:Nice, it really helps to see it all laid out like that!

No quibbles of any kind, now when planning the encounters we can just re-post the map with markers showing where we are, where they came from etc. Good job!


Sure not a problem at all.

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Here is the link for the bible v4.

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Re: War Engagement

Postby shadowhawk2008 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:03 pm

For those of us who are working on specific forces - Commander Shadow with the guard, Raziel with his Novamarines, Razhbad with the Deathwatch and myself with the Sable Swords - we should come up with our own missions for the campaign. Then put them up here for a discussion, poking holes, refinement, all that jazz. That I think is the best way to do this.

For missions involving multiple locations in the same system, such as the Trakkus and Klesser systems, we can work collaboratively on that.

I'm going to write my first mission with the Sable Swords and Sororitas against the Alnedosi Rifles and the Tau in the Alnedos system. :mrgreen: Cmdr. Shadow, I'll be using some of your fleet assets for this :) And may need your drop troops as well. Let me know about them if you have any ready material, otherwise I'll make them up on spot ;)

The two beginning missions I mention in the bible against Marn's Reach and Straffenberg are just guidelines. Feel free to make whatever use of them you want. :)
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Re: War Engagement

Postby Commander Shadow » Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:01 pm

i'll have the rest of the guard and navy list by the end of the day.

Also, how will we organize colaborative actions? Something with the IG and IN and Astartes all on one world? will we be avoiding something like that?

Apart fromt that, I love the map, noticed the color code too, great job.

Note: Final regiment count is about 21. haven't figured out how many that would be but... i see lots of bodybags in the future (or past :D )
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Re: War Engagement

Postby shadowhawk2008 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:12 pm

Commander Shadow wrote:i'll have the rest of the guard and navy list by the end of the day.

Also, how will we organize colaborative actions? Something with the IG and IN and Astartes all on one world? will we be avoiding something like that?

Apart fromt that, I love the map, noticed the color code too, great job.


We are most certainly not going to avoid combined engagements :) If someone ends up using the crusade as background for an apocalypse game, they got to be able to represent that :D Thanks on the map.

There are 8 systems to go around, the last two - Trakkus for Cardinal Garrysta and Klesser for Governor Darran will be massive joint campaigns with everyone. That leaves us with 6 systems to fight over with whoever we want. I am working the Alnedos mission as we speak. Its a joint strike with the Sable Swords, Sororitas, the drop troops, Veranan grenadiers, a Gayara siege regiment, a veranan infantry regiment and the lunda mechanized regiments. Currently i'm setting it in the beginning of 825.m41

I just finished copying your current fleet list into the bible. Comes out to 26 ships and squadrons of escorts all together. A few concerns I didn't see before.

1. There are too many fighter wings in my opinion, 16 each for interceptors and bombers. That is quite a lot. Perhaps reduce it to 10 or so. We can maintain wing strength at like 15 fighters and it will still be quite a lot. [edit: also the wing numbers - intentional?]

2. I notice for your officers (fleet and guard alike) you favour short names that are more often than not non-imperialish if you know what I mean. They are perhaps too obvious as irregular names. Was that a conscious decision? Its just slightly hard to keep track of :)

3. Your fleet list in itself is quite formidable. It could probably give the Armageddon battlefleet a run for its money :P The Hesperon subsector fleet is quite close to Tau space and the eastern fringe but its not that important for so many high profile ships in such vast numbers.

I am toning things down a little bit for now. Once we both have the fleet lists complete we can compare notes and haggle over the choice.
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Re: War Engagement

Postby Commander Shadow » Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:30 pm

Your aneldos campaign sounds formidable! Please leave at least one of my boys left when the dust settles :) (specifically trooper bob jim-bob, he's a willy one!)

1) You did mention too many fighter wings. I'm going to cut out the Thor carriers and leave all the starfighter/bombers to the Dictator cruisers, I've also cut out a fair amount of cruisers and one of the battleships (this will be up in my next post). The wing numbers weren't really intentional, i thought to myself... how am i going to do this? then i went to the number keys and closed my eyes :D

2) I did a similar things with the names (sorry, writer's block) some of them however are slight changes to names of people i know with seperate spelling and the same pronunciation. From what i remember alot have kinda italien sounding names, when i post the next list up i can change a few of the names around.

3) Cutting out some ships, it'll break my heart, but somehow i'll manage :D
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Re: War Engagement

Postby shadowhawk2008 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:43 pm

I am planning it as the next big stage in the crusade. Siparias [as in the map] was the Balhaut of the Hesperon Crusade, minus any bigshot rebel leader getting killed [although that might change]. The system has a shipyard, orbital defenses, monitoring outposts the like. The crusade is going to stall here for a good while and isn't going to go on to Gojaha and Anacites anytime soon. There may even be a lashback by the rebel forces. It will take 1, maybe 2 years to crack Alnedos wide open.

Also what i mentioned was the first elite strike force capturing a beachhead in the system. A second battlegroup is going to move in as well later with the intent of laying siege to Alnedos. We are going to see the astartes especially get a little antsy :D Some of your guys are going to be war-heroes. Others disgraceful. Some will die. Some will be dead going on, to represent casualties taken in the first phase of the crusade. :twisted:

For the crusade fleet, I am thinking of it being divided into three fleets. One will be under the command of Admiral Vitrus, and two other fleets under the command of Commodores Perchevi and Thane. That gives us a nice division of forces to deploy for various missions. At least one of these fleets will be divided at any given time defending the conquered territory, expecting reinforcements from elsewhere within the larger sector.

And don't worry about your ships being cut. The astartes are going to bring theirs. The Sisters too. Even the inquisition will bring something. So combined its all going to be a big showdown every single time.

Did you get my email about the support vessels from Inferno? I got it from Erunanion and its quite helpful. We are going to incorporate some of the smaller ships like the Minotaurs and the Devourers in the fleet to help with the planetary assaults for the guard.

I'll post more as I think of it. :idea:
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Re: War Engagement

Postby Commander Shadow » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:02 pm

Sounds like a good plan, makes sense on a tactical level (did i mention i've been reading SunTzu's Art of war? :D )

The hold up intrigues me, what could make astartes antsy? Will we be delving into ground campaigns and naval actions? something like BSG's overview of the Armageddon 3rd war? I'd be happy to assist with planning the timeline for the ground campaigns.

Oh and thats, Vice-Admiral Perchevi and Commodore Thane (re: future revised fleet list), there will be another commodore. In terms of the IN i was thinking that the battle fleet would be split up in to Two cruiser squadrons (commodore thane and Ganava), along with the squadrons of escorts. But more on that later.
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