Ghurlag wrote:These are the lowest thing you can resort to in a debate.
Ghurlag wrote:They, uh, are available. Up there.
...*Points*
That's all of it.
I'll chase up the moderation issue for you, though, shafe.
schaferwhat‽ wrote:I'm out btw, it seems like an awful lot of effort just to discuss things on the internet. If I want to discuss things and sound out this community (and it happens, it's a nice, smart bunch here) I'm going to the traditional thing and post it for everyone and people can respond and react (either by taking part or taking offense) as they see fit.
schaferwhat‽ wrote:Where the line is drawn over if a subject is suitable for anyone or just for the chosen few who opt in to a discussions sub forum is unclear to me anyways and again the term "lighter moderation" with regards the new area means nothing when the current state of affairs isn't defined or organised.
schaferwhat‽ wrote:Sorry if this seems like a bit of a moan. I however feel that moderation and what not happens best when the community and the site staff are on the same page so I'm letting my opinion be aired here as I missed wherever the conversation happened that led to these decisions.
schaferwhat‽ wrote:then what is this run through of the rules the mods will give me if I ask about joining?
I'm out btw, it seems like an awful lot of effort just to discuss things on the internet. If I want to discuss things and sound out this community (and it happens, it's a nice, smart bunch here) I'm going to the traditional thing and post it for everyone and people can respond and react (either by taking part or taking offense) as they see fit.
Where the line is drawn over if a subject is suitable for anyone or just for the chosen few who opt in to a discussions sub forum is unclear to me anyways and again the term "lighter moderation" with regards the new area means nothing when the current state of affairs isn't defined or organised.
Sorry if this seems like a bit of a moan. I however feel that moderation and what not happens best when the community and the site staff are on the same page so I'm letting my opinion be aired here as I missed wherever the conversation happened that led to these decisions.
schaferwhat‽ wrote:so the rest of the forum is only for vapid immature meaningless discussion?
Now I'm not a moderator so I don't know what sort of complaints, reports, requests and issues have been here to be dealt with so I am talking from a position of ignorance spurred mostly from the point of view that as a community there has been no engagement from the staff about our opinions about what sort of tone we want to foster here or what we'd like to talk about. (Which may not be weighted quite as highly as moderation considerations but should still be a factor).
I also don't see the hurt in people getting upset from time to time, or the difficulty of a quiet word saying "you're getting close to the knuckle guy(s) tone it down" as I don't feel anyone intentionally intends to offend and when called on it will opt to then alter their language. That said offense is subjective, text on a forum has little emotional context attatched to it, you can read into things which were never intended and this does seem to be motivated out of some sort of need to punish/remove people who dare to voice an opinion which sets uneasily with me.
I might be wrong mind, like I said I'm talking out of ignorance but that's what happens when stuff is launched upon a community with no engagement or prewarning or discussion about it.
schaferwhat‽ wrote:true however if there was a clear moderation policy and set up already maybe we'd all have a clearer idea where the lines stand although I do wonder how birthday wishes undermine a civil atmosphere.
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