How are we?
Re: How are we?
by Therion » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:48 am
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Re: How are we?
by Xisor » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:20 pm
Ah, I get you. Makes things more clear, but I still think the 'killing is cool!' element of wargames (etc), isnt very morbid at all. Or at least, predominantly it isn't.
By a slight analogy: three of my friends who're all massive military history buffs (WW2, WW1, and Byzantine/Late Roman Empire) are amongst the most peaceful, officious, easy going people I know. I'm sceptical of the idea thatvtheir avid fascination with the military is due to how it goes about killing people. (Similarly how most Catholics aren't actually literally operating under the idea that they're 100% cannibals when they take communion.)
But I digress. For some people, they definitely are into it for the more ghoulish side, but I think that's incidental for most people. (And I'm not sure where I stand on the morality of being into it for morbid reasons. My gut says "they're probably psycopaths!", but thats probably the same bit of the gut that in other people manifests as "even the most minor kink is creepy immoral perversion")
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I went around and around for a long while on the Big 5 earlier this year, convinced that I had 0% conscientiousness. Not my finest hours! But you're right, the comorbity and diversity of presentations is probably huge. Thinking in terms of M-B stuff is probably oversimplifying it a touch, but it's probably the easiest to talk about whilst still keeping the idea intact.
One of the major ideas I'd seen bandied about, but not resolved definitively, is the idea that autism is a sixth big factor, and that it may have sub-factors that correspond to different pieces of autistic behaviour (e.g. disposition to stimming, ability to cope with overstimulation, social awareness).
But I genuinely dont know enough about any of it to talk with much insight or use on it, except in some vague generalities.
Even looking at it in a Big 5 style, we're talking about clustering humans on their ability to perceive and acknowledge the various differences between the clusters. If you add autistic tendencies as a sixth dimension/factor, then our mental picture/map of the social world becomes horribly complicated and difficult.
You can see why, as a species, it seems mostly to be handled subconsciously! But, I think it's that subconscious perception is what keeps people from *really* crossing the neurotypical-neurodiverse social barrier with any great, widely reproducible skill.
And, indeed, why the less efficient bits of any given person's psyche lead them into no end of stress in trying to figure things out.
It's a hell of a tangle, alright!
By a slight analogy: three of my friends who're all massive military history buffs (WW2, WW1, and Byzantine/Late Roman Empire) are amongst the most peaceful, officious, easy going people I know. I'm sceptical of the idea thatvtheir avid fascination with the military is due to how it goes about killing people. (Similarly how most Catholics aren't actually literally operating under the idea that they're 100% cannibals when they take communion.)
But I digress. For some people, they definitely are into it for the more ghoulish side, but I think that's incidental for most people. (And I'm not sure where I stand on the morality of being into it for morbid reasons. My gut says "they're probably psycopaths!", but thats probably the same bit of the gut that in other people manifests as "even the most minor kink is creepy immoral perversion")
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I went around and around for a long while on the Big 5 earlier this year, convinced that I had 0% conscientiousness. Not my finest hours! But you're right, the comorbity and diversity of presentations is probably huge. Thinking in terms of M-B stuff is probably oversimplifying it a touch, but it's probably the easiest to talk about whilst still keeping the idea intact.
One of the major ideas I'd seen bandied about, but not resolved definitively, is the idea that autism is a sixth big factor, and that it may have sub-factors that correspond to different pieces of autistic behaviour (e.g. disposition to stimming, ability to cope with overstimulation, social awareness).
But I genuinely dont know enough about any of it to talk with much insight or use on it, except in some vague generalities.
Even looking at it in a Big 5 style, we're talking about clustering humans on their ability to perceive and acknowledge the various differences between the clusters. If you add autistic tendencies as a sixth dimension/factor, then our mental picture/map of the social world becomes horribly complicated and difficult.
You can see why, as a species, it seems mostly to be handled subconsciously! But, I think it's that subconscious perception is what keeps people from *really* crossing the neurotypical-neurodiverse social barrier with any great, widely reproducible skill.
And, indeed, why the less efficient bits of any given person's psyche lead them into no end of stress in trying to figure things out.
It's a hell of a tangle, alright!
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Re: How are we?
by Rob P » Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:00 pm
Xisor - you might be interested in https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00791tq
Try youtube for the show.
Try youtube for the show.
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Re: How are we?
by Xisor » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:26 pm
Rob P wrote:Xisor - you might be interested in https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00791tq
Try youtube for the show.
That's extraordinary sounding! Cheers, Rob, looks absolutely fascinating.
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And in this heat!?
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Re: How are we?
by Therion » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:32 am
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Re: How are we?
by Therion » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:34 am
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Re: How are we?
by Xisor » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:12 pm
Well, you would say that, you Libra, Therion! 
Sounds like a bit of a miserable hospital experience, to put it mildly. On the upside: result on finding out about the liver.
And for diets, I'd heard over a few years the attestation that 'dieting, on average and over a long period of time, leads to weight gain for most people'.
The reasoning around this is multifold, and somewhat speculative, but is something like this:
- it's not being incorporated into your intended 'final state' - e.g. living on 1800kcal a day, for the rest of your life.
- people are atrocious at self-control, they'll dive in with big expectations and modest self-determination then, eventually/inevitably, fall off the wagon and rebound.
You get the idea.
From what I've heard from MDs on podcasts/blogs, it sounds like the sensible advice is along these lines:
- get some more exercise. Incorporate it into your life, don't expect one day to cut back on exercise: treat it as a new part of your life, here to stay. (Which also means: don't go wild in committing to four hours in the gym, evert hour. For one, it's too ambitious to sustain. For two, time doesn't work that way. That'd be four hours of exercise every hour. The mind boggles, but I bet the body would rebel.)
- slow, steady changes.
- Count calories. Not in infinite detail, but in a sense of 'this meal is roughly five hundred, that snack is another two hundred, and those plums that were in the icebox, were another two hundred', but so you've an actual idea of how much food your eating, day to day. This knowledge alone might give the fortitude to say no to unnecessary snacks, without overwhelmingly altering your diet.
- varied diet. It's an oldie, but it fits - a good quantity and also a fair variety of veg, some decent meat if you're able, and not an unholy amount of sugar (e.g. don't just switch to 50,000 apples a day). Don't go wild on cutting out things you like, but if you can cut down (e.g. rather than a box of biscuits, how about just two biscuits) then that'll work nicely.
For my part, I've had vague success with this. Calorie counting is difficult, because I forget about it far too easily, but I've gotten pretty good at having a small pile of salad with any cooked meal, simply as routine.
I've come some distance from when this was routine with dinners when I was staying with my dad back in...2010-2013. As we'd often have a roast/meat-and-two-veg [quiet you in the back!], with a bowl of salad beside, I'd often inadvertently [and after the first few times: very intentionally] have what I liked to call 'Scottish Salad Dressing', which is to say: gravy on the salad.
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And for exercise: Swimming, and now even running(!?!?!
) - thanks to the Couch to 5k app - seem to at least be easily accommodated into my life. More, I quite like swimming, so it's a bit of an indulgence too.
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Re:How are we?
I have a holiday booked in Canada, late July to mid-August.
I am not presently in Canada.
More news as we get it.
Sounds like a bit of a miserable hospital experience, to put it mildly. On the upside: result on finding out about the liver.
And for diets, I'd heard over a few years the attestation that 'dieting, on average and over a long period of time, leads to weight gain for most people'.
The reasoning around this is multifold, and somewhat speculative, but is something like this:
- it's not being incorporated into your intended 'final state' - e.g. living on 1800kcal a day, for the rest of your life.
- people are atrocious at self-control, they'll dive in with big expectations and modest self-determination then, eventually/inevitably, fall off the wagon and rebound.
You get the idea.
From what I've heard from MDs on podcasts/blogs, it sounds like the sensible advice is along these lines:
- get some more exercise. Incorporate it into your life, don't expect one day to cut back on exercise: treat it as a new part of your life, here to stay. (Which also means: don't go wild in committing to four hours in the gym, evert hour. For one, it's too ambitious to sustain. For two, time doesn't work that way. That'd be four hours of exercise every hour. The mind boggles, but I bet the body would rebel.)
- slow, steady changes.
- Count calories. Not in infinite detail, but in a sense of 'this meal is roughly five hundred, that snack is another two hundred, and those plums that were in the icebox, were another two hundred', but so you've an actual idea of how much food your eating, day to day. This knowledge alone might give the fortitude to say no to unnecessary snacks, without overwhelmingly altering your diet.
- varied diet. It's an oldie, but it fits - a good quantity and also a fair variety of veg, some decent meat if you're able, and not an unholy amount of sugar (e.g. don't just switch to 50,000 apples a day). Don't go wild on cutting out things you like, but if you can cut down (e.g. rather than a box of biscuits, how about just two biscuits) then that'll work nicely.
For my part, I've had vague success with this. Calorie counting is difficult, because I forget about it far too easily, but I've gotten pretty good at having a small pile of salad with any cooked meal, simply as routine.
I've come some distance from when this was routine with dinners when I was staying with my dad back in...2010-2013. As we'd often have a roast/meat-and-two-veg [quiet you in the back!], with a bowl of salad beside, I'd often inadvertently [and after the first few times: very intentionally] have what I liked to call 'Scottish Salad Dressing', which is to say: gravy on the salad.
/ And for exercise: Swimming, and now even running(!?!?!
) - thanks to the Couch to 5k app - seem to at least be easily accommodated into my life. More, I quite like swimming, so it's a bit of an indulgence too.----
Re:How are we?
I have a holiday booked in Canada, late July to mid-August.
I am not presently in Canada.
More news as we get it.
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Re: How are we?
by Therion » Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:04 am
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Re: How are we?
by Major Rawne » Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:16 pm
I am wonderful. Thanks for asking.
Picked up Kill Team last weekend and had rollicking good fun building the three Kill Teams I got. It's been 18+ years since I built anything and i'm certainly keen to get a Space Marine army going. But before I buy more models I best paint at least the Reiver Kill Team. Which happens to be this weekends task providing the paints turn up.
Picked up Kill Team last weekend and had rollicking good fun building the three Kill Teams I got. It's been 18+ years since I built anything and i'm certainly keen to get a Space Marine army going. But before I buy more models I best paint at least the Reiver Kill Team. Which happens to be this weekends task providing the paints turn up.
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Re: How are we?
by Rob P » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:27 pm
Did you get the painting done, Rawne?
I'm really having to choose where to spend my time at the moment. I'm super busy at work; I want to do a bunch of free time/hobby stuff; and I have a course i'm on and another to start to up the career prospects. I'll be dead before I can have 5 minutes to glue some stuff together.
I'm really having to choose where to spend my time at the moment. I'm super busy at work; I want to do a bunch of free time/hobby stuff; and I have a course i'm on and another to start to up the career prospects. I'll be dead before I can have 5 minutes to glue some stuff together.
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Re: How are we?
by Major Rawne » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:50 pm
Rob P wrote:Did you get the painting done, Rawne?
I'm really having to choose where to spend my time at the moment. I'm super busy at work; I want to do a bunch of free time/hobby stuff; and I have a course i'm on and another to start to up the career prospects. I'll be dead before I can have 5 minutes to glue some stuff together.
I have made a start on things. What I do need is a kick up the bum to finish the space marines that I have finalised a paint scheme for. I ended up going for do it yourself chapter, which is predominantly silver which I found to be really easy. The one thing I will have to look at though for the next lot I build is to paint at least the arms separately as I am finding that i'm getting paint all over the torso that I don't want there.
On topic though i'm doing good, though finding i'm trying to split my focus across to much and ending up not really getting much done. Like painting.
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Re: How are we?
by Therion » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:27 pm
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Re: How are we?
by Therion » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:39 am
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Re: How are we?
by Xisor » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:19 pm
That's pleasing to hear, Therion. Well, especially the 'counting nutrition consistently' - that sounds like getting a bit of extra amount of control & 'mental agility' in your life, enough to tip a balance or two. 
It sounds wholesome, in a cautiously moderate but still good sort of way.
I've been all over the place in terms of diet and exercise - interrupting and stuttering trying to restart a formerly good pattern. (Complicated further as my medication:brain interaction is annoyingly sensitive to fluctuations on weight, so small negative effects are unduly amplified.)
On the upside, I'm getting into better exercise habits, even in worse weather - and even getting to the point to where me being in a bit of a shitty/miserable mood feels like a prompt to 'go and enjoy a little run or long walk', not a big burden of 'urgh, I have to go and do HORRIBLE exercise'.
A seemingly tiny change, but it is quite pleasant to my mind. So much so that the weight side of things is beginning to seem irrelevant in comparison to mood/energy.
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That said, even a "normal" 9am to 5pm workday is still leaving me fried and chaotic, even then with reliable medication.
But I think I'm getting the swing of things, knowing good routines for myself and being able to mark out (or at least recognise/infer) boundaries for my own wellbeing and cultivation.
Try too much, I exhaust myself and then frustrate my own ambitions. Try a bit less, more measured, and I seem to be a lot more capable. But it's constantly meaning I have to remember to... Pace myself?
Well, that's a thing in any event.
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At work, we had a bit of an chat about 'Open Data' stuff. I'm almost tempted to try dabbling in it myself. Maybe not for work stuff, but to cultivate a work-adjacent hobby. One that's not entirely unrelated, but distant enough from it that it's rejuvenating and stimulating, rather than more of the same.
It sounds wholesome, in a cautiously moderate but still good sort of way. I've been all over the place in terms of diet and exercise - interrupting and stuttering trying to restart a formerly good pattern. (Complicated further as my medication:brain interaction is annoyingly sensitive to fluctuations on weight, so small negative effects are unduly amplified.)
On the upside, I'm getting into better exercise habits, even in worse weather - and even getting to the point to where me being in a bit of a shitty/miserable mood feels like a prompt to 'go and enjoy a little run or long walk', not a big burden of 'urgh, I have to go and do HORRIBLE exercise'.
A seemingly tiny change, but it is quite pleasant to my mind. So much so that the weight side of things is beginning to seem irrelevant in comparison to mood/energy.
---
That said, even a "normal" 9am to 5pm workday is still leaving me fried and chaotic, even then with reliable medication.
But I think I'm getting the swing of things, knowing good routines for myself and being able to mark out (or at least recognise/infer) boundaries for my own wellbeing and cultivation.
Try too much, I exhaust myself and then frustrate my own ambitions. Try a bit less, more measured, and I seem to be a lot more capable. But it's constantly meaning I have to remember to... Pace myself?
Well, that's a thing in any event.
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At work, we had a bit of an chat about 'Open Data' stuff. I'm almost tempted to try dabbling in it myself. Maybe not for work stuff, but to cultivate a work-adjacent hobby. One that's not entirely unrelated, but distant enough from it that it's rejuvenating and stimulating, rather than more of the same.
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Re: How are we?
by Rob P » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:22 pm
I applied for a GW Notts job for the hell of it. Don't think i'll get an interview and don't think they'll pay what I need, but got to roll the dice now and then.
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Re: How are we?
by Therion » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:08 am
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Re: How are we?
by Therion » Mon May 04, 2020 9:07 pm
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Re: How are we?
by Firefox » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:38 pm
Therion wrote:WARHAMMER IS FOR EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR ME
*Walks into ruins of post-apocalyptic skyscraper*
What the hell happened here?
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