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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Major Rawne » Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:35 pm

All sounds good. Makes me feel like I really should lay a little catch up, though I still haven't spotted Legacies of Betrayal out in nice little format.
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Fenris » Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:37 pm

War without end seems the loyalist version of the group shot they used for a "bad guys" anthology i cant remember the name of

Edit:

seems to be a loyalist version of Legacies of Betrayal.

That's what i get for not reading to the end :P
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Lord of the Night » Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:26 pm

Two MORE Horus Heresy covers confirmed;

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Eye of Terra. From the cover's depiction of the Emperor and Horus fighting at Ullanor I suspect this is an anthology of Pre-Heresy stories from the Great Crusade. Which would be very welcome, a follow-up to the superb Wolf of Ash and Fire would be very fun to read I think.

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Garro: Vow of Faith by James Swallow. More Garro is always a good thing, each audio gets better than the last and I hope this is another 2 hour one.


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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Fenris » Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:50 pm

:)
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Major Rawne » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:12 pm

From what the internet is saying the Garro title is actually a novel. Guess we'll see when it comes round to it.
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Death Nikorps » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:10 pm

Hi everyone, some news for you:

May 2016

The Beast Arises Tome 6 - Echoes of the Long War by David Guymer

The End Times: Death of the Old World - Omnibus of the last 2 tomes

June 2016

The Beast Arises Tome 7 - The Hunt for Vulkan by David Annandale

Horus Heresy: The Razing of Prospero - Omnibus

July 2016

Adeptus Mechanicus by Rob Sanders (novellas + short stories anthology)

Space Marine Battles: The Plague of Orath (3 novellas anthology)

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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Fenris » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:51 pm

New website day

Leaving the quality of the site aside (newsflash,if you are interested in novels only it's bad)...PROMOTIONS!

Till the 11/11,no shipping costs and the Dark vengeance tie in novel free with every order (that means paying it 1.49€ with the cheapest item in the BL catalogue)


And another kinda-stupid-but-w/e contest (buy 40£ of stuff in one order for a chance to win 5x100 ebooks you pick)
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Major Rawne » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:56 pm

I thought the point of updating things I'd to make it better, it's as equally terrible as it has been for the last 2-3yrs (longer even?).
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Xisor » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:09 pm

Major Rawne wrote:I thought the point of updating things I'd to make it better, it's as equally terrible as it has been for the last 2-3yrs (longer even?).


Not if you're a shallow person! (Well, even then you might not like the new look.)

My only major complaint is the "Black Library & Warhammer/digital" logo. Perhaps it's cool with the kids. But, to be frank, it reminds me of how shoddy the iTunes book covers are.
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Death Nikorps » Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:06 pm

More:

July

The Beast Arises Tome 8 - The Beast Must Die by Gav Thorpe
The Chapters Due by Graham McNeill (reprint)
Slayer of the End Times - Omnibus 2 Gotrek

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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Fenris » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:51 pm

Betrayal at Calth tie-in time,preorders just went up

The Honoured - written by Rob Sanders, this 192-page hardback novel details the events occurring immediately after the Word Bearers’ brutal assault on Calth. Steloc Aethon, renowned captain of the Ultramarines ‘Honoured 19th’, must attempt to put aside his thirst for vengeance if he is to lead his brothers to victory over the traitors.

The Unburdened - a 192-page hardback novel written by David Annandale, this is the tale of the Word Bearers’Third Hand Chapter as they are drawn into the underworld of Calth, there to wage unrelenting war against the Ultra...


Now 192 pages is a novel?
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby revelation » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:40 am

Nice to see some more BL coverage of the underground war on Calth. It hasn't been done nearly enough justice by the series yet. Especially looking forward to the Rob Sanders one.
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Xisor » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:23 am

Fenris wrote:Now 192 pages is a novel?

As Josh Reynolds pit it - many classics of SF and Fantasy are not the fat books we know. Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, A Scanner Darkly, I Am Legend, Behold the Man. Plenty of these, and I think outside of SFF it is definitely pretty common. Casino Royale's pretty short too, if I recall the look of it right.

I'd be happier with a more discriminating scale, certainly. Distinguishing between novella and novel at all, and then throwing these ones into the mix... it's not inherently, technically wrong, but it does leave a bit of a sour taste to be getting out of it on pedantic technicalities.

'Short novel' would do well enough.
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Lord of the Night » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:13 pm

Xisor wrote:I'd be happier with a more discriminating scale, certainly. Distinguishing between novella and novel at all, and then throwing these ones into the mix... it's not inherently, technically wrong, but it does leave a bit of a sour taste to be getting out of it on pedantic technicalities.

'Short novel' would do well enough.

The problem is that Black Library not only don't have such a scale, they actively disregard such a thing. But what really leaves a sour taste is the pricing when you examine other such products. The Honoured and The Unburdened are both 192 pages, which is more like 180 pages of story, and are priced at £18. Skitarius and Tech-Priest are both 220-240 pages long, so about 210-230 pages of story, and are priced at £15. Black Library are openly charging more for The Honoured and The Unburdened solely because they are Horus Heresy, a series that draws more readers/customers than simple 40k and the Mechanicum would.

I think that is disgusting and refuse to buy into it. I refuse to pay more for one series just because it's more popular and BL feel that they can charge more for it.


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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Duke_Leto » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:57 pm

LOTN ... Totally agree re pricing etc. to date I have never purchased any limited edition BL book OR novella. Some of the HH novellas have really appealed but I knew if I was patient they would/should eventually get republished in an anthology or omnibus.
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Athelassan » Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:47 am

Xisor wrote:
Fenris wrote:Now 192 pages is a novel?

As Josh Reynolds pit it - many classics of SF and Fantasy are not the fat books we know. Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, A Scanner Darkly, I Am Legend, Behold the Man. Plenty of these, and I think outside of SFF it is definitely pretty common. Casino Royale's pretty short too, if I recall the look of it right.

I'd be happier with a more discriminating scale, certainly. Distinguishing between novella and novel at all, and then throwing these ones into the mix... it's not inherently, technically wrong, but it does leave a bit of a sour taste to be getting out of it on pedantic technicalities.

'Short novel' would do well enough.

I have a Penguin Classics edition which contains the first three Bond stories (Casino Royale, Live and Let Die and Moonraker) and it's still a pretty slim volume. See also (non-SFF) classics like Gatsby or Heart of Darkness.

For quite a while I think releases have been padded out to an extent to reach the standard BL length, with thicker paper and larger print, and I wouldn't be surprised to find older BL novels have a lower word count than one might expect, whatever their page length

As you imply, though, there does seem to be a trend towards "more is more", though, in SFF and an expectation for doorstoppers both on the supply side and the demand side, not only in BL. It's important to remember that quantity doesn't necessarily equal quality and just because a release contains fewer words than another doesn't mean it's worse value for money. Fifty Shades of Grey is, I think, longer in page terms than any BL novel to date.

Lord of the Night wrote:The problem is that Black Library not only don't have such a scale, they actively disregard such a thing. But what really leaves a sour taste is the pricing when you examine other such products. The Honoured and The Unburdened are both 192 pages, which is more like 180 pages of story, and are priced at £18. Skitarius and Tech-Priest are both 220-240 pages long, so about 210-230 pages of story, and are priced at £15. Black Library are openly charging more for The Honoured and The Unburdened solely because they are Horus Heresy, a series that draws more readers/customers than simple 40k and the Mechanicum would.

I think that is disgusting and refuse to buy into it. I refuse to pay more for one series just because it's more popular and BL feel that they can charge more for it.

I think "disgusting" is overstating the case rather. Supply-and-demand economics is a thing, and charging more for something because it's more likely to sell is a perfectly valid strategy. These aren't cancer pills or something where lives are at stake: the worst that'll happen if people can't afford to buy is a degree of annoyance. It's a question of business practice, not of morality.

Back in the day, the principle used to be standard practice in the publishing industry, with the more popular, commercial titles used to subsidise the profitable lines. The end of that arrangement and what is now the more familiar practice of loss-leading the most popular titles has one of the biggest factors in driving specialist booksellers out of business in the last fifteen years or so.

It is undoubtedly true though that GW's approach to the business-customer relationship has been rather cynical for a long time, and it's easy to read a degree of disdain for their customers into that. If demand and sales tail off (and disposable income has been generally pretty low across the board for about seven years at this point, so a lot of companies took a hit on sales), raising prices to maximise revenue from remaining sales of popular products is one way to deal with that. It appears there are (just) enough people who will buy at any price that selling fewer products to fewer people at a higher price and deliberately constricting supply to push up demand artificially remains a viable strategy for them in the short term (long term, I think it's suicidal, but people have been predicting the demise of GW for years and they're still afloat).

For a long time BL was effectively insulated from what had long since become the norm over the corridor at Citadel, but it seems their practices have been streamlined with the model side, and so while it's a bit disappointing to see them screwing around in this manner, I'm not surprised, and no longer find it worth getting wound up about.

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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Vivia » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:38 am

Athelassan wrote:For quite a while I think releases have been padded out to an extent to reach the standard BL length, with thicker paper and larger print, and I wouldn't be surprised to find older BL novels have a lower word count than one might expect, whatever their page length

There is definitely something like that going with certain BL novels. I'm not 100% sure but one of the Darkblade novels had this sudden jump into giganticus font, I remember because it distracts my eyes leading to reading difficulties (thank you for nothing, publishers). I never realised it could mean they were padding out the content, after all the Darkblade novels are of similar thickness. Weird, but it makes sense.
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Xisor » Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:27 pm

There's an element of artificial scarcity to the LE releases too. Whilst it's not a purely moral question, there is an element of... business ethics to it. Not that using artificial scarcity to fuel models is unethical, but there are consequences to the decisions that I feel are personally non-negligible.

(But then that's true of my entire experience of business, in general.)

Incidentally, I described buying the two Ad Mech books over the weekend to my colleagues.

"I bought two books for £30 over the weekend, which explains why I don't have money for other things, so I'm a bit upset about that."
"Are they any good?"
"Erm, yeah, actually. So far they're really good."
"So not that upset then?"

It's a good point. Rob's stuff is really great. I'm not really upset in anything other than an accounting capacity. And the books are great.
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Fenris » Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:52 pm

Next week from WD leaks

Reprint of Daemon world and the Stormclaw tie-ins,and the first print of the latest Silver skull novel (since it was digital only so far if i'm not mistaken)

+ what i think should be a collection of old UM stories
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Re: Black Library Release Calendar

Postby Lord of the Night » Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:47 pm

Finally! Some worthwhile releases;

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/11/ ... irmed.html

The Santus Reach Collection, our own Pyro's latest novel Portents, and a 368-page Ultramarines anthology (for £15, which is MORE LIKE IT!). And the sublime Daemon World reprinted, which I might actually get if the cover-art is sweet enough. After all Daemon World was, along with Lord of the Night and Fulgrim, the first few BL books I ever read and thus is very special to me.

And I still think that Daemon World has one of the greatest characters in the entirety of Black Library; Arguleon Veq.


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